Heresy: From Soul Shards to VoidLight

For the meme short version, try Wait thats Heresy: A Dood's guide to Speed Heretic

Updated by: NomiSaltium

Updated for v1.55 (incomplete)

Introduction to Heresy

The Good	The Bad	The Ugly
Viable for many stages of the Game One of the fastest classes Benefits from many features	Chaotic valuations More speed means more active Burst is increasingly time sensitive and frequent	Can be extremely gear dependent for power SO MUCH GEAR SO MUCH EDUST

The Fundamentals of Heretic

If this is your first time ever using Heretic, especially if this is your first realm, these are the basics that you want to know to get the most out of Heretic. This section will cover the basic phases, desired attributes, and the items that you will want to obtain and upgrade early on.

The early-game Gear

This section assumes you aren't rolling in legendary gear yet. It will advise you on general gear comparisons and good pieces to look out for.

Heretic has 4 item sets that need to be upgraded as best as possible: Burst, Void Mana, Evocation, and Incantation snap. Technically, there is also a Pet Level set, though it needs legendary items more than it needs enchants, and it's less impactful than any other item set.

Void Mana and Burst are the most important sets to upgrade. The other 2 sets can just be as much Evocation ("evo" for short) and Pet Ability Power ("pap" for short) as you can get, and all of your Incantation ("incant" or "inc" for short) items.

For burst, all click/crit/profit gear give the same value per enchant level, inc provides between ^3 and ^3.3 depending on burst spell set, and summon gives ^0.65.

Heretic likes a lot of items, though some early ones to look for are most items from the Nether's Embrace set for Void Mana, Fist Brooch, Faithful Fists, Empowering Headguard, Empowering Chestguard, Empowering Handguards, and Empowering Waistguard.

Other notable items to get are:

• Whiplash
• Bite Sleeves
• Ceaseless Hunger
• Legacy
• The Amplifier
• WrathSeed
• Head Of The All-Eater
• Redeemer
• Voidstrike Seal

Reasoning

Item	Reasoning
Whiplash	Void Mana. Gets replaced by Netherloop eventually.
Bite Sleeves	Increases Empathy by a lot. Good for Void Mana and Burst phases with Voidterror, and for Buildup phase with Archivist
Ceaseless Hunger	Usable in multiple phases, until you get better options for Void Mana and Burst phases
Legacy	Void Mana. Also helps with reaching INS perks sooner
The Amplifier	Good burst item, until you find something better like Embrace Of The Grove. Best back item for Snap phase
WrathSeed	Great Burst item
Head Of The All-Eater	Good Burst weapon, until you have legendary Redeemer
Redeemer	Best Burst weapon
Voidstrike Seal	Increases Dominance by a lot, and eventually becomes the second best burst ring next to Resonator Ring

For other items that you will want to upgrade as you go, you will find them in the enchant priority table here.

The Attributes from start to finish

Start with the following attribute distribution, assuming you have at least 800 attribute points:

INT 150, INS 150, SPC 150, DOM 150, PAT 50, MAS 50, EMP 100

EMP will be your main dump stat until you've maxed most attributes.

Spend attribute points in this order, assuming you don't have items that increase Attributes:

1. INS 200
2. DOM 200
3. DOM 225
4. INT 200
5. INS 250
6. DOM 250
7. MAS 200 for Collar and the perk
8. PAT 150
9. INT 250
10. MAS 250
11. EMP 150
12. SPC 250 for Kilt
13. EMP 250
14. Dump into PAT
15. PAT 250
16. Dump into VER
17. WIS 200
18. WIS 250
19. If Innate Aptitude is leveled up, max all except SPC and WIS, dump rest into VER

The Phases of Heresy

Quick Burst

This phase consists of doing the phases from Buildup to Burst quickly (within 5-10 minutes at most). This way, you'll gain more sources and upgrades, thus making all of the phases better. Afterwards, you can do the phases in order again until you gain mysteries.

Buildup

The first phase of Heretic is centered around collecting many things. You use your evo set for this phase. You will spend most of your run in this phase. The basic spell set for this phase is as follows:

The pet for this phase is Archivist for increased evo. Reality Warping is used for constant Shard generation.

Details

Eventually, you can use items that increase spell shards generation such as Spell Shards Fractalization and Easymind Hat to charge your spells, though this is only relevant with high-leveled Spell Memetics.

Chaotic Fervor is your best source of Excess Hallow Clicks (EHC for short) for Battle Trance and one of your Character powers. Smite is used because Voidforged Armaments scales with all-time performed Hallowed Clicks (PHC for short). Later on, Smite is also be used to make Voidlight Amalgam stronger. Void Syphon helps with your other Character power and Ceaseless Hunger if you are using it here.

The autoclicks and spell casts from this phase also improve Forsaken Glory, which is the go-to burst spell for your longer Heretic runs. If you use Head Of The All-Eater for burst, charge it in this phase, but with Void Prison instead of Manabeast.

Void Mana

This phase is pretty simple: generate as much Void Mana as you can within the next 10-15 minutes. Staying in this phase any longer than that is not worth it. This is where you use Voidterror (or Voidlight Amalgam later on) to generate your ocean of Void Mana with your Void Mana set.

Voidbolt is used so that you always have Shard Of A Lost Dimension's ability active if you have that item. That spell also boosts your Character ability power, which means more Void Mana.

If you lack Void Prison, you can leave that spell slot empty. Chaotic Fervor is used to keep your HC pool topped up before burst. All of the other spells are used to generate Void Mana or keep spells charged.

Snap

Important note: if you don't have a lot of high-quality Incantation items for this phase, you can avoid snapping Gem Resonance for the time being, until you get some legendary items.

This spell set is the pre-burst setup, though this specific type of setup is also known as a "Snap phase". Here's how it goes in this case:

1. Cast Voidforged Armaments and wait for the HC pool to fill up.
2. Cast Power Of Sacrifice and wait for the HC pool to fill up again.
3. Cast Gem Resonance.

Relentlessness and Chaotic Fervor are used to fill your HC pool before casting the 3 spells mentioned above.

Details

Snapshot explanation	Details
By casting these spells with a full Incantation set, their bonuses will be locked for their full duration, even if you change item sets, but only if they stay in the exact same spell slots the whole time. This is known as a "snap".	The only part about Voidforged Armaments that can be snapped is its increase to the max HC pool, so that's why it's the first spell you snap here. Power Of Sacrifice scales with the amount of HCs consumed, which is why you should wait until the HC pool is full before snapping it. This scaling with HCs consumed also applies to Redeemer in the Burst phase if you're using this item.

Burst

Important note: if you didn't have a lot of high-quality Incantation items for the Snap phase, you can replace Gem Resonance with Spirit Of Valor in the burst spell sets below.

The short run spell set looks like this:

This spell set includes Hallowed Writings, and is used specifically because Forsaken Glory takes time to scale up.

The long run spell set looks like this:

The Heretic burst works as follows:

1. Do the snap phase.
2. Switch to burst item set and spell set in this order (specifically for recharging Redeemer).
3. Click the Orb a bunch of times (or 1 time thanks to Redeemer's active ability).
4. Switch to snap spell set to refill HC pool (and recharge Redeemer if you're using it).
5. Go through steps 3-4 over and over again until either Gem Resonance or Voidforged Armaments run out. In this case, you snap them and continue bursting until Power Of Sacrifice runs out.

These steps remain the same regardless of progress. You can also do a VM phase after bursting, then do steps 1-5 again. Doing these steps properly is crucial to make profits as a fellow Heretic.

Getting the muscle memory down for Burst is most of the struggle, as it's a lot of button presses in a short amount of time. Make sure you use the spell sets and item sets features in the game to make the Burst much easier to do.

Items

Enchanting

Enchant your item sets in this order:

1. Burst
2. Void Mana
3. Buildup / Snap
4. Pet Level

Buildup and Snap sets are similar in power, though Snap is better at less than e550 mysteries. Pet Level set needs only 1 level to gain bonuses from Resonator Ring and the Legion challenge.

The enchant priority table below assumes that your total enchant level is 7 or higher, and that you have maxed all your attributes unless otherwise noted.

Enchant Priority
Highest (profits 30% to 20%, mostly burst items)	Symbiotic Loop Earthen Cowl Seclusion Shell Boots Of Concentration Faithful Fists Fist Brooch Abnormal Voidmass Insidious Lure Voidstrike Seal Exceptions: Servants Overclocking replaces Efficient Minion Tactics in burst at total enchant 30. Tranquil Spaulders replaces WrathSeed in burst at total enchant 39. At total enchant 24 or higher, if you don't have legendary Abnormal Voidmass, use Collection Of Samples at 1 enchant level lower than this instead. If you don't have legendary Insidious Lure, use Anima Core at 3 enchant levels lower than this instead. If your total enchant level for Symbiotic Loop is 9 or lower, or if you don't have PAT 100, use Gemshoes at 1 enchant level lower than this instead of using Boots Of Concentration.
Highest -1 (profits 20% to 13%, VpE 20%, VpE 15%, and many burst items)	Void Sampling Anomalous Essence Pitch-black Cage Gravemoss Waistband WrathSeed Spirit's Guidance Redeemer Black Vortex Embrace Of The Grove Necrotic Powerstone Vita Bulwark Nethershackles The Bright Beacon Nethershell Netherfist Chaos Mantle Nether Chain Netherloop Exceptions: If your total enchant levels for items with 15% VpE enchants are 12 or lower, or if you are using Voidterror, use Whiplash at 3 enchant levels lower than this instead. If you are using Voidterror, use Bite Sleeves at this enchant level instead of Nethershackles.
Highest -2 (profits 13% to 9%)	The Rubedo Engine Sash of Luxury Reality Prism The Amplifier Ebon Mantle Legacy
Highest -3 (profits 9% to 6%, evo 30% to 25%, incant 4%)	Collar Of Obedience Stabilizing Pauldrons The Clockcarers Chronoboost Ring Empowering Handguards Boots Of Eastern Blessings Artificer's Shoulderpads Rich Bands Incantations Restructuring Anima Core Heart of the Storm Spellweaving Kilt Habitstone Torc Of Privilege Empowering Headguard Spellstealer Exceptions: Anointed Ashes replaces Heart of the Storm in snap at total enchant 39. If you don't have MAS 175, use Endless Pouches at this enchant level instead. If you don't have SPC 250, ignore Spellweaving Kilt until you do. If you don't have PAT 100, ignore Artificer's Shoulderpads until you do.
Highest -4 (profits 6% to 4%, evo 20%, pap 22.5% to 20% in buildup)	Charged Fin-Wing Empowering Chestguard Boots Of Harsh Trials Ceaseless Hunger Timeshroud Destabilized Evocations Arcane Engine Folds of Magma Bite Sleeves Searing Gaze Nulldragon, The Anomaly Notes: Whether you use Timeshroud or Flaming Cape doesn't matter until you reach Ascensions. If you don't have Nulldragon, The Anomaly, ignore it until you do. If you don't have legendary Charged Fin-Wing, use Empowered Water at this enchant level instead. With enough Catalysts, Arcane Accelerator beats Ceaseless Hunger. You can always compare them in-game to see which one is stronger.
Highest -5 (evo 15%, pap 15% in buildup)	Conjured Ragecrown Empowering Waistguard Ritual Disk Exceptions: If you don't have Ritual Disk, ignore it until you do.
Highest -6 (evo 10%)	Zenith, The Champion's Steed Exceptions: If you don't have Zenith, The Champion's Steed, use Warp Basilisk instead.

You can use this spreadsheet to get more precise information on how to spend your e-dust. However, it requires you to make a copy of it and to input a lot of data. It is helpful for some other things as well.

Phases

Notes:

• In the enchant tables below, you'll see enchant levels presented in this format: "Enchant 3+5 (8)". The first number is the enchant level it should be at before any other bonuses. The second number adds bonuses from Resonator Ring and the Legion challenge. The enchant level in parentheses is the total enchant level. This note will appear in each of those tables in case you skipped it.
• If you don't have access to T3 pets yet, you can use Voidterror instead.

Buildup

Spells and best items

Archivist	#3#@9,2;115,2;32,2;104,2;35,2;24,2;1000,2
Enchant 1+5 (6) #3#6;41;24;14;35;58;104;113;60;85;76;1012;204;300;405;415;92;2001;3003 Enchant 16+5 (21) #3#6;41;23;14;35;58;104;113;60;85;76;1012;204;300;405;415;92;2001;3003
Enchant levels are presented in this format: "Enchant 3+5 (8)". The first number is the enchant level it should be at before any other bonuses. The second number adds bonuses from Resonator Ring and the Legion challenge. The enchant level in parentheses is the total enchant level.

If you have high or maxed WIS, then you can use Manabeast instead of Reality Warping, though the difference is minor.

Possible adjustments:

• If you don't have legendary Charged Fin-Wing, use Empowered Water instead.
• If you don't have Zenith, The Champion's Steed, use Warp Basilisk instead.
• Searing Gaze is slightly stronger than Hollow Eye Pendant in this phase regardless of enchant level.
• Timeshroud and Flaming Cape provide exactly the same bonuses for this phase, so it doesn't matter which one you use until you reach Ascensions.
• With enough Catalysts, Arcane Accelerator beats Ceaseless Hunger. You can always compare them in-game to see which one is stronger.

Pet Level

Spells and best items

Voidterror Voidlight Amalgam Archivist	#4#@106,2;104,2;108,2;85,2;24,2;31,2;1000,2 #5#@21,2;25,2;15,2;44,2;26,2;24,2;1000,2
Enchant 1+5 (6) #5#9;43;27;13;30;57;106;112;67;87;76;1006;203;309;413;408;96;2009;3006 Enchant 1+5 (6) #4#9;43;27;13;38;57;106;113;66;87;76;1006;203;307;413;408;96;2009;3007 Enchant 1+5 (6) #6#9;43;27;13;-1;57;106;113;66;87;70;-1;203;-1;-1;-1;96;2009;3007
Enchant levels are presented in this format: "Enchant 3+5 (8)". The first number is the enchant level it should be at before any other bonuses. The second number adds bonuses from Resonator Ring and the Legion challenge. The enchant level in parentheses is the total enchant level.

Falconer's Ranger Hat, Falconers Furcoat and Precise Wristband don't need enchants. Endless Pouches doesn't need enchants for this phase.

Notes:

• The Pet Level spell set for Archivist is not necessary, but it's there if you want to know how to maximize its experience gain.
• Precise Wristband is not necessary either.
• For Voidlight Amalgam, you can switch briefly to the Void Mana item set and spell set, then switch back to pet level item set and spell set for a minor boost to pet experience.

Void Mana

Spells and best items

Voidterror Voidlight Amalgam	#2#@106,2;115,2;104,2;30,2;31,2;24,2;1000,2
Enchant 1+5 (6) #2#5;49;25;15;30;55;112;113;67;89;76;1006;202;309;407;412;99;2006;3006 Enchant 31+5 (36) #2#5;49;25;15;30;55;111;113;67;89;76;1006;202;309;407;412;99;2006;3006 Enchant 1+5 (6) #2#5;49;25;15;30;55;112;113;67;89;78;1006;202;309;407;412;99;2006;3006 Enchant 8+5 (13) #2#5;49;25;15;30;55;111;113;67;89;78;1006;202;309;407;412;99;2006;3006
Enchant levels are presented in this format: "Enchant 3+5 (8)". The first number is the enchant level it should be at before any other bonuses. The second number adds bonuses from Resonator Ring and the Legion challenge. The enchant level in parentheses is the total enchant level.

Stay in this phase for 10-15 minutes at most. At that point, you'll be at the highest amount of Void Mana you can reach this exile, not counting upgrades you might get after bursting.

You can also stay in this phase for a short time, then snap and burst, buy some upgrades and sources, then come back to this phase.

Possible adjustments:

• If you don't have 175 MAS, use Endless Pouches instead.
• If you don't have legendary Insidious Lure, use Anima Core instead.
• If you don't have Nulldragon, The Anomaly, use Warp Basilisk instead.
• If you don't have Void Prison, you can leave that spell slot empty.

Snap

Spells and best items

Voidterror Voidlight Amalgam	#1#@4,0;24,2;115,2;104,2;108,0;55,0;1000,2
Enchant 1+3 (4) #1#7;48;23;18;32;56;104;113;68;84;72;1005;209;301;411;409;91;2007;3001 Enchant 3+5 (8) #1#7;40;23;18;32;56;104;113;68;84;72;1005;209;301;411;409;91;2007;3001 Enchant 34+5 (39) #1#7;40;23;18;32;56;104;113;68;84;72;1005;209;301;411;417;91;2007;3001
Enchant levels are presented in this format: "Enchant 3+5 (8)". The first number is the enchant level it should be at before any other bonuses. The second number adds bonuses from Resonator Ring and the Legion challenge. The enchant level in parentheses is the total enchant level.

Make sure that Gem Resonance, Power Of Sacrifice and Voidforged Armaments are in the exact same spell slots in both this spell set and the burst spell set. Otherwise, you won't get all the benefits of this phase.

You can recharge Redeemer here by switching to the burst item set.

Empowering Chestguard, Tranquil Spaulders and Chronoboost Ring don't need enchants for this phase.

Possible adjustments:

• If you don't have 250 SPC, use Folds of Magma instead.
• You can use Temporal Stabilizer or The Accumulator instead of Reality Prism. They have the same enchant bonus, so it doesn't matter which one you use for this phase.
• If you don't have legendary Anointed Ashes, use Heart of the Storm instead.

Burst

Spells and best items

Voidterror Voidlight Amalgam	#0#@4,0;102,2;53,2;85,2;108,0;55,0;1000,2 #0#@4,0;102,2;114,2;85,2;108,0;55,0;1000,2
Enchant 1+4 (5) #0#8;42;28;10;34;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;305;408;411;93;2003;3005 Enchant 2+5 (7) #0#8;42;29;10;34;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;305;408;411;93;2003;3005 Enchant 5+5 (10) #0#8;42;29;10;36;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;305;408;411;93;2003;3005 (Short run ONLY) Enchant 10+5 (15) #0#8;42;29;10;36;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;305;408;400;93;2003;3005 Enchant 19+5 (24) #0#8;42;29;10;36;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;305;408;400;93;2003;3005 Enchant 20+5 (25) #0#8;42;29;10;36;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;305;408;413;93;2003;3005 Enchant 25+5 (30) #0#8;42;29;10;36;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;306;408;413;93;2003;3005 Enchant 34+5 (39) #0#8;48;29;10;36;52;105;113;64;80;75;1007;206;306;408;413;93;2003;3005
Enchant levels are presented in this format: "Enchant 3+5 (8)". The first number is the enchant level it should be at before any other bonuses. The second number adds bonuses from Resonator Ring and the Legion challenge. The enchant level in parentheses is the total enchant level.

If you run out of Hallowed Clicks, you can switch to the Snap spell set to recharge them and Redeemer, then go back to Burst spell set and burst again.

Possible adjustments:

• If you're using Hallowed Writings instead of Forsaken Glory, replace Anima Core with Collection Of Samples at total enchant 15 instead of 24. (see enchant table above)
• At total enchant 24 or higher, if you don't have legendary Abnormal Voidmass, use Collection Of Samples instead.
• Voidstrike Seal can be better than Symbiotic Loop, depending on levels in Obscure Talents (a Realm Upgrade that makes Attributes stronger). At max level, Voidstrike is better until total enchant 64+5, where Symbiotic is better again.

Around Red Power Memetic 24/25, Gild 20 Source Memetic, and 1e11 Catalysts (1000 Red Soul Shard) Architectural Databelt begins to outperform Gravemoss Waistband.

With enough Catalysts, Miniaturized Accelerator outperforms Fist Brooch. The Catalysts needed depends on enchant level and Faithful Fists. However, Fist Brooch is better overall, because past a certain point (probably around 1e9 Catalysts), it takes so many Catalysts for Miniaturized Accelerator to outperform Fist Brooch that it's not within reasonable reach.

For those who are interested, the following table and this spreadsheet show what these thresholds are:

Miniaturized Accelerator Thresholds
Enchant	Catalysts withoutFaithful Fists	Catalysts with Faithful Fists
0	2.15E+07	8.32E+07
1	3.95E+07	1.53E+08
2	7.25E+07	2.80E+08
3	1.33E+08	5.14E+08
4	2.44E+08	9.44E+08
5	4.48E+08	1.73E+09
6	8.22E+08	3.18E+09
7	1.51E+09	5.83E+09
8	2.77E+09	1.07E+10
9	5.08E+09	1.96E+10
10	9.33E+09	3.60E+10
11	1.71E+10	6.61E+10
12	3.14E+10	1.21E+11
13	5.76E+10	2.23E+11
14	1.06E+11	4.09E+11
15	1.94E+11	7.50E+11
16	3.56E+11	1.38E+12
17	6.54E+11	2.53E+12
18	1.20E+12	4.63E+12
19	2.20E+12	8.50E+12
20	4.04E+12	1.56E+13
21	7.41E+12	2.86E+13
22	1.36E+13	5.25E+13
23	2.50E+13	9.64E+13
24	4.58E+13	1.77E+14
25	8.40E+13	3.25E+14
26	1.54E+14	5.96E+14
27	2.83E+14	1.09E+15
28	5.19E+14	2.00E+15
29	9.53E+14	3.68E+15
30	1.75E+15	6.76E+15
31	3.21E+15	1.24E+16
32	5.89E+15	2.28E+16
33	1.08E+16	4.18E+16
34	1.98E+16	7.66E+16
35	3.64E+16	1.41E+17
36	6.68E+16	2.58E+17
37	1.23E+17	4.73E+17
38	2.25E+17	8.69E+17
39	4.13E+17	1.59E+18
40	7.57E+17	2.93E+18
41	1.39E+18	5.37E+18
42	2.55E+18	9.85E+18
43	4.68E+18	1.81E+19
44	8.59E+18	3.32E+19
45	1.58E+19	6.09E+19
46	2.89E+19	1.12E+20
47	5.31E+19	2.05E+20
48	9.74E+19	3.76E+20
49	1.79E+20	6.90E+20
50	3.28E+20	1.27E+21

Pantheon

Gods priority
e500 mysts (3 Gods)	Altermutus > Animataelia = Ardourium
e600 mysts (6 Gods)	Altermutus >= Procreogenus > Tempoaeverum > Veritallios > Animataelia = Ardourium
e700 mysts (Both abilities)	Altermutus >> Animataelia > Procreogenus > Ardourium > Tempoaeverum = Veritallios
e800 mysts (Chaos unlocked)	Altermutus >> Animataelia = Chaos > Procreogenus > Ardourium > Tempoaeverum = Veritallios
e900 mysts (Cerebros unlocked)	Altermutus >= Cerebros >> Animataelia = Chaos > Procreogenus > Ardourium > Tempoaeverum = Veritallios
Demiurge	Same as e900 mysts
Dread	Cerebros > Altermutus >> Animataelia >= Tempoaeverum = Procreogenus = Chaos > Ardourium > Veritallios
Notes	Tempoaeverum and Veritallios give almost the same profits. Animatealia and Ardourium scale better once you get secondary abilities. Cerebros is higher than most other Gods because of the God experience boost it provides. Once you reach Ascensions, Dread puts Tempoaeverum higher than most other Gods, while Demiurge keeps the same priority.

Minor Gods priority
Before Ascensions	Mundigenia > Cantopotensa > Vastognicia = Robuqueisa = Peritocapia
Demiurge	Same as before Ascensions
Dread	Mundigenia > Cantopotensa >= Peritocapia = Robuqueisa = Vastognicia
Contraligia	This one is particularly difficult to calculate its optimal level, because it increases Memetic Splinters gains. And then those extra Splinters go into a calculator to determine how to spend them efficiently. If you are unsure what level Contraligia should be at, put it at roughly the same level as the lowest leveled Minor God.

Source memetics

Spell Memetics

For use with Merp's spell meme sheet.

Spell	Efficiency	Casts scaling	Autoclick amt scaling	Other
Forsaken Glory	1.268	0	0
Void Prison	1.26	0	0
Gem Resonance	1.23	0	0
Voidforged Armaments	1.22	0	0
Battle Trance	1.2	0	0
Smite	1.157	3.6	0	Cast rate
Conjure Void Elemental	1.186	0	0	Autoclick
Chaotic Fervor	1	2.66	0	Cast rate
Void Syphon	1.0082	1.183	0	Cast rate
Void Lure	1.011	0	0
Voidbolt	1.0084	0	0
Summon Winged Night	1	0	1.413

(Conjure Primal Elemental is so weak that it's not worth considering at any point you'd be using base Heretic.)

Be sure to fill out the summon table in the top right of the sheet too:

Spell	Base clicks	% of buildup
Summon Winged Night	100*	100%

*The number here makes 0 difference, because it's the only source of clicks.